OK I havent taken official weight of the Boxster race car for nearly a year. Last time it was officially weighed it was 2580lbs and that was with partial interior full dash, stock wheels, etc. I have been quite busy since then. Any guesses where it lands?

Obviously big items removed are windshield all dash and structures underneath, lighter wheels, gutted doors, pretty much all non functional stuff removed.

I will post official weight by this Friday.

I would guess 2250 with no fluids.. no driver

Voted (or should I say hoped) for 2200#

I'll guess 2300#. That would be removing about 300# from your previous wt. That's a lot.

Tony just sent me message. It weighed in at 2195lbs! ...And thats with fluids and a little fuel in the tank.

Thats with steel fenders, steel doors, heavy fiberglass decklids, undercoat still on, and a few other things that could be trimed off. I do think a 2000 lb Boxster is a possibility. It will just take some work.

Nice. I guessed you were still at 2400.

Whatcha trying to do over at PPBB? Trying to lure someone into saying it's not possible, and then hanging them out to dry? I'm not sure you'll bait anyone into that. They only like to talk about n-rated tires, oil, extended warranties, and IMS failures.

Hey just having fun with the Zymol crowd

I picked 2200. Cut out the A-pillars. Those things are beefy.

Holy crap Grant! Thats 150 less than my guess!

With slow focused approach over the next year I'm prety sure we can get it down to around 2000 lbs with certain setups. If I stick to Canti's for example for some events I can go after about 20 to 25 lbs in wheel weight by making change from heavy Phonedials to true race wheels. (but I dont see that happening I want wider wheels and tires), I do have opportunity to pull wiring weight of about 13lbs?, CF fenders and door skins will take off some more, focus on removing non essential sheetmetal, scraping heavy german undercoating off, I have a few more ideas as well.

I'm out of play money now and my time is limited so I'll have to make due with couple hundered more lbs than I was planning.

But I see the fast Boxster play being a little different than 914. Boxster platform can handle way more power than 914 for cheaper investment - so likely looking for bigger motor over the next year once my bank account recovers! In the meantime this should prove to be fun play toy. Dont think it will win any national cahmpionships or burn GT3's off the tracks. It will just be good fun car with above average potential!

Here is the near finsihed car

Let's see. If I read the XP rules correctly you can put a 3.6L engine in and keep the car at it's present wt. Sounds like it's time to start thinking engines!!!

so did you use a standard 914 ginther screen?
oh, BTW, what did I win

Yeah I have been thinking lots about engines. My wallet is screaming for a break however. You know race cars are always more expensive then you ever plan. If I had unlimited funds I'd have Jake rebuild a 3.4 996 motor for me with hot heads, etc.

...More likely senario is I'll find some weezy used 996 motor for $4K and install it next year.

I have to get flared fenders to use my new wheels - thats extra $$$ too! The whee/tire combo fit under rear fenders. Its the fronts that are a problem. Wonder how it would be to run 11 inch slick in rear and a canti in the front? Tires are all the same hieght. I just think car wouldnt turn well. Would be great for power delivery however.

Yes it is a 914 Ginther from Patrick MS. Fits like a glove. LOL! Honestly its about perfect and looks like its made for the car.

As prize youre welcome to drive the car anytime you like at AX events in Nor Cal!

shopping for a cheap online ticket right now

With a 3.6 and 11" wheels with sticky tires, you better save some money for a transmission too.

That wont be for a while so no worries yet. By that time maybe I will have some sequential dealy to replace the stock tranny.

dont lie to us .. we all know it isnt "finished"

LOL! Oh so true.

Did you see that Excellence with the black AX 914 that won at Parade?
I wonder if you could copy the cooler placement for the boxter radiators? Put them central over the top of the engine, save a lot of tubing and maybe water, with more weight in the middle (but up kinda high) and air flow from over the hood through the absent window area.
Kinda hard to think of places to cut...besides the bodywork!
Great job Grant

I don't think that mid/top mounted radiators would work so well on a Boxster simply because they would have to be so large to work that the aero would be really bad. The only reason that they worked on the 914 was because they were not the primary cooling system. Frankly, I think that there was really very little that can or should be copied about that particular Black 914. Check out the shoulder belt mounting, SCARY. I know that it is an autocross car and the seat belts will likely never be employed but between that, the stock seat, the front sway bar attached to the front trunk floor (I have one of these sway bars rusting away, half buried in the side yard and that is the best place for it), and the fenders, I am surprised it maid it through tech.

Yeah I could see single big radiator in rear trunk But I'm not sure thats where you want the weight up high and in back. Single big lightweight radiator in front and low with lines wouldn't be all that much heavier. Car already has fairly significant rear wight bias.

I see bigger opportunities. Just like 914 racers I see some level of tube frame front and rear being a real option. Crash structures in Boxster are huge. I'm also thinking sheet metal flooring sections in nonstructural areas could be replaced with aluminum sheets.

I think Door skins are real option. Even gutted steel doors are fairly heavy.

Good job Grant

Told you the 914Ginther fit

Look for the tube framed front shortly. I still have a wrecked tub.

Get the wiring out. 22lbs and about 20 hours. It is something you can do with a wiring diagram.

I finally located a place in SoCal that acid dips tubs...



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Even without tube frame front and rear I can get the car under 2000 lbs dry. The 2195lb reading on my car was with 6 gallons of fuel and I have found even more stuff that is easy weight reduction. I'll have it down to 2100 in the next month.

Wanna see sumthin funny....???
Read post 102 and 103 of this thread http://www.914club.com/bbs2/index.php?show...6370&st=100

Yeah so I took it to heart and made it happen. Just missing the engine and the big brakes! And some of the suspension.

I do have a clue.. and I can see the future I have THOUSANDS of posts just like that all over this site. Not just about Boxsters, but where stuff is headed, or where we have gone. Porsche future is easy to see. Look at the past to determine the future.

In the 70's and 80's 914's were raced professionally. The Boxster has been raced professionally since 2001. The 914 went on to become the most tracked, AutoX'd Porsche of all time. Semi simple in design and semi easy to maintain. The Boxster will follow the EXACT same path.

Boxster Spec? Just a stepping stone. I already have people bringing me their cars to re-use the tub and make it bigger/better based on the cage and tub they already have. I now have 2-3 people wanting Grand-Am cars built for ST.

Cayman's are next. GS class Cayman's. They out qualified the 997's first time out of the box.



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I'm saving my money for the Cayman