Yep,

I just pull all this shit from my ass. Nevermind the REAL time spent with race cars at real race tracks with real drivers

Gene Sigal had just gotten out of the car and was describing what the car was doing at corner entry/mid corner/corner exit of the bus stop at Daytona. Notice we are partnered with Brumos and use their pit stall/timing&scoring equipment during Grand Am weekends. I looked all over for JP, but didn't see him at this event



Gene Sigal and Chris Prey (our two drivers in the ST Boxster)






B

This was hilarious. The Chip Gnassi guys built tiny snow men from the Florida ice and snow we had on Sat. morning

I think those are M5 washers for buttons.. !! Zip ties for arms..




B

damn... yer good at photoshop!
LOL

looks frikkin cold, man. I don't do cold too well.

Brad,

I have a friend that was at the Roar-24 and he took this shot. It's the only one he has of your car. He'll be there during the race and will be sure to take more. I'll pass them on as I get them

I know that the car is sponsored by Royal Purple and all but that paint scheme is probably why there is only one photo of it. Kinda looks like Barney after a bar fight with Big Bird.

Oh and is the 3rd radiator not legal? I see no opening.

I think Brad just walks around pits with a set of headphones and poses with drivers and teams.

The radiator is legal, but the opening is not. I spoke at length with Grand-Am last year about the opening. I will address it again this year before we go to Barber. We have data logged 210deg. at Miller last year in 86 degree heat.

The car has a 3rd radiator

I need to explain to them that the opening will actually generate LIFT unless we exit it out the top of the bumper!!

Pictures? We have a ton. The car actually pops pretty good with SUNLIGHT!! I think Paul's guy may have only been there for Sat. when it was rainy and cold


B

That would actually be funny..


B

JP?

Ferrari F430 team called and signed me onto their 24hr Rolex GT team... Met with them this past weekend while they where testing at CA. Speedway. You know? the one that had the AutoX in the infield parking lot and the track event going on the road course? I'll be working two cars this coming weekend. The Boxster in ST (which runs on Friday) and the 430GT car in the 24hr race.

All smoke and mirrors..

5$ says we work on the car at the track!!

I'm really just razzing you. I just wish you'd give me *some* credit. People don't call you if you have ZERO to offer.


B

Brad:
I do give you credit.....but not for things I know to be crap. Because you are a regular track hero it doesn't mean everything you use there applies to AX or developement of an AX car. You seem to infer that I don't know what I'm talking about in the AX world.....fair enuff.... we will continue to disagree.

You continue to find work and you'll make enuff money to have a real live race car of your own some day. Untill then you self promotion and taking credit for every 914 in CA does nothing for me.

I assume you did all the important work on all the 914s at the Marina Shoot Out.....except mine & Gary's, of course. It was a good idea to get Andrew to switch over to the R spec tires for the 2nd day.....now that impressed me.

I see you are using the "we" word on Brits 912 to boot. Great job.

So.. if I get a race car? I'm good to go? I wasn't looking for the Ferrari work. They contacted me.

I built Britain's engine and have helped him on the 912 since 1995 or so including helping him when it was in NorCal. I have never said "I" built the car. Never even said "we" built the car. Not sure where that came from? and I sure as hell would not take credit for the Shitbox. Although it would make you really really mad if you knew exactly how many times Britain called me asking for guidance or idea's, then had to sell it too you as his own idea.. That has only gone on since he first got into the seat.

Honestly,

(you may not believe this) I highly respect everything you have done with the Shitbox. I use it as an example to many many people on what can be done with the 914 platform. Just a few days ago, I offered Britain to take the 914 in the 18 wheeler to the Nationals this year. Fly you in, throw down the kiwi tile and put up the awning. Hang out in the drivers lounge in the front of the trailer.. I think YOU and the car deserve a shot at the Nationals. I don't care who drives (I'm certainly not interested) but show up, and do it on a different level.

Self promotion:

You have a full time job. This is my full time job and typically people see results when working with me (positive results) whether it be driver instruction or physical car work that I do. I'm sorry if everything that comes from my mouth/hands sounds like self promotion. It is not intended to be that way.

ok guys... 'nuf bitching and poking and ... already
have a beer / ice tea / smoke / what ever cools ya down

You have to earn JP's respect. One day I'll do that. I'll focus all my attention on beating his Shitbox on a national stage. Basically that is the only way to earn his respect. Doesn't matter how hard you work, or how much money you have. Beat his car, and you earn his respect.

Actually.. he won't care, now that I think about it If the car gets beat, it will be because Britain made all these changes..

Losing battle. I'll never earn JP's respect.



B

Nonsense. Like many, my internet persona is different than real life....I'm actually grumpier. Maybe it could use some modification. You are different also, I wish more of you came thru...more Brad & less BRAG.

We did apply some of Brit's ideas......don't matter to me whose idea it was iff'n it was a good one. The ones we didn't usually ended when I asked "Are you paying for it"? He is now....

this back and forth makes me wonder when/where JP got started with 914s
I dont mind a self promoting pompus know it all as long as he can back it up with action and results
hey brad, did you notice 10jereen's consistent top 5 trend in addition to SD TTOD? thanks for all your help. its time for the next round of tweeks.

Oxymoron = Expert Autocrosser

Holy crap Grant.. that is awesome..


This one rocks also




B

When you get back to Florida give me a call. I'll PM my number.

You still need a hand for the Sebring PCA weekend?

Yes. I think we have 15 BoxsterSpec cars attending the Sebring event!!



B

why is it quazi-cool to diss AX? does it make wannabe track stars feel more adventerous, bigger than an AX'er? Auto cross is a skilled activity that like any other, has participants who are novice and others who are experts. wikipedia describes proper or customary use of the term "oxymoron" that may help those who misuse such terms in hopes of gaining cool status on the back of those who they dis.

Brad have camera ...... will travel

It's 10:45pm on a Friday night.. and 6 people are viewing this..


Jaime,

I wish we could afford to fly you out to Sebring..

Check this out, this is what I would like to put together one day for BoxsterSpec. Can you do it? Gene is my driver for the ST Boxster and drives the Ferrari F430

Now that's action man, sure dude we can put this together...We need to set-it up I know you have the people in place to make this happen!.....I will shoot and cut this thing for sure. I want IN !!!

Ask around

"AutoX pukes" is the term I use and I use it in front of them

I like it because you have almost NO time to make an adjustment. It FORCES you to LEARN FASTER!!!


B

Autocross is for those that can't afford real racing or don't have the balls but still want to pretend to be race car drivers. I still fit in the former category but hope to test the latter this year.

Hay, mom, I did the dishes. Can we go get me some tires now?

Evan, you left out people who make a thoughtful decision to AX. I was an awful boat racer. When I raced I put myself and others in needless danger. I have the scars to prove it. No one likes to admit they aren't good at something they enjoy but, I recognized that I was poorly suited as a driver and I walked away before a real tragedy happened. It was one of best decisions I ever made. But, I missed it.

Now, I have a lot more responsibility with a family and a business. Time off to recover is money out of my pocket and a long recovery would see my practice ruined. I made the decision to limit myself to AX. AX isn't the same by any means but, I've found it to be fun and challenging. Feedback is right now and with timed runs you can compete against yourself. Course I'm still a lousy driver but, there isn't nearly as much risk to myself and others.

Dave

In kiddie terms that means you have no balls.,,,nor do I.

Poor little rich kids never have to go to Iraq to find out if they have balls.

Tell that to the 1100 folks at the SCCA Nationals.

Some track guys dis it cause they get their ass waxed when they try it. Most don't, waxed ass & all. The ones that do have some kind of complex & are the offenders. They make excuses instead.

The best thing about AX is you can build (or not build) the car you want, then go race it.

evan, you talk like someone who actually drives...something, sometimes, maybe, someday...

balls? me and ten of my best friends at 3 am with only 150 rounds of 9mm, 10 HE 203s and 1500 republican guard closing in with rpgs and a support caravan. what does anyone here have to tell me about balls?

JP would be proud of me. I push ALL new comers to AutoX.

VERY hard to do with all the SoCal "money" guy's. They all believe they can drive and don't need AutoX. Then they show up to the track in their 996TT and don't understand why a 2.5L Boxster is kicking their ass


B

We had planned to spend the weekend in Daytona for the Rolex test and even had a room booked, but the unusually cold weather convinced us to call it off. When I learned that it had rained sleet on Saturday I was glad I did. I will be at the 24 Hrs and try to spot you to say hello, Brad. I am already checking the weather forcasts.

Mike,

for testing we were in garage 17. I'm not sure where they are going to put us when we roll the transporters in on Wed. next week. I will have wireless web access for my laptop, so I'll update this thread


B

Heh, heh.
Some of those "money" folks end up on the 5 o'clock news or on the internet in either a video or thread. Good advice is useless when ego is involved. I can see that AX as an end item would be
un-fullfilling to many folks. How can one brag about being a national champ at AX? The only folks that give a shit are "serious" AXers and there's only about 20 of those in the whole world.

What Slick is talking about is the definition of "balls". Other references I have seen here are pure bullshit.

thats funny. I have customers who never want any billing going to their emails and a few guys came to pick up the car with the wife. it is agreed that when this hapens we talk money some other time sans wife.I never even looked at the costs till I teamed up with hmeeder, then i did the math. oops.

balls are defined by the test of life not what anyone says they are.

someone mentioned that balls is what deternines who or why people AX vs road race hence the relevance to the topic.

all who serve are not brave. some just want the college money. I have seen "our boys" running like mice from a cat while screaming like little girls. glorifying ALL who serve is PC crap.

You really are an idiot. I never made any connection between "balls" & AX....just about people and the misuse of terms. You are too stupid to understand what you read and thus not worth any of my time beyond this. I was one of "our troops" (I find that reference insulting...you own no part of me or them) were you?....I thought not, you're much too self centered to put yourself into that position.

Post another absuridity. I need to see if my ignore list works. You are alone on it.

I know Sean served (Mighty Mouse) I had know I idea they made Navy Seals as small as him


B

6 year veteran, Navspecwar group one. combat vet first gulf war,desert desception, desert storm, quait city CQB, Jordar, quatar, UAE, gulf of Oman, recon, target softening...

name calling? I wasnt even refering to your comments.
you must have been one of the guys running. why else would you be so angry

I razzed him once about not being tall enuff to carry his weight of the log......he musta thought I wasn't funny......I didn't do it again.

thats the secret to making it...the log never touched my head. there was one guy smaller than me. his name was Casey. he was 5'-3" Im 5-5. Casey got fragged from teh concrete debris of an RPG strike in Afganistan back in jan 7th '94

Wow didn't realize Ax vs. Track was such a touch subject. Yes I may be a spoiled semi rich kid but I have been spending $10k of my money a year on AX for car development/parts/tires etc since I turned 16 (amassing what people pay me to park their boats at the fancy restaurant I work for). While I realize that this wouldn't be possible if my parents didn't support me in all the other facets of my life, I do have a fair amount of personal investment in the sport well at least of someone < 20 years old. On a side note, $10k a year seems be the bare minimum to develop and campaign a 914 at the pointy end of the local PCA small pond so lets not confuse Ax with inexpensive. I imagine that it would be $25-30k minimum to run SCCA Ax competitively on a national level.

I personal am a wimp and while have the same thrill seeker gene as most adolescent males, my thrill seeking is usually overpowered by my feelings of self preservation. I cite never having broken a bone or needing an emergency visit as proof of my non thrill seeking nature. Heck I made it to College with out ever being sent to the principals office. Anyhow, this is where my "balls" comment stems from, I personally have yet to see if I have the balls to ever turn respectable laps at a track but now that I have the equipment, some skill, and the parental support (I got my dad hooked in the process but he won't drive my cars because he doesn't want to break them) I am ready to see. Whatever the case though, I will never stop autocrossing though.

Sorry I touched off this debate/name calling.
Returning to lurker status and leave the incendiary posts to the adults.
-Evan

Back on topic. Is there a wind tunnel in California I can rent to do testing on my AX car aerodynamics? I'm also looking for team of skilled engineers with telemetry equipment to head out to a skid pad with me to help setup my autocross car. Of course when I'm competing I will need suspension engineer to make adjustments to the car based on conditions. and of course most importantly I am looking for an AX sponsor who will provide me with umbrella girls to help keep sun off my head while I'm sitting in the grid.

Naw its much more fun to wing it on what I "think" is fast and call myself an expert.

Cal Poly San Louis (SLO) has a wind tunnel but I have heard that it isn't what is considered full scale (car size).

there is/was a guy on this board,a UCSD proff who did aero testing on various 914 configs. I think "Chris" would have some insight
...I cant find his site with the tets data
...found it
http://www.cassidy-online.com/porsche914/a...aids/index.html

Wow, what a thread.....

yup. yup. yup.... one of the biggest dumping detours in a while.