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turbellion
post Sep 27 2011, 06:50 PM
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so i finally found a good motor for my car, a totally stock 2.0 with 40,000 miles.
it has all the FI stuffs on it still but i dont have any of the other vital Fi parts that attach to the body, all i have is the stuff bolted to the engine..... heres my dilemma

should i track down the rest of the fi stuff and hope i can get it to work ( i only have cis experience) or should i go with the empi 40mm idf kit? (i have lots of carb experience)

keep in mind i wont be changing the cam.

how will the 40's work with my stock engine? im not looking for a race tuned engine, i just want it to run well, efficiently and reliably.


also if do the idf's what would be a good venturi,main and idle jet size?

anybody have any thoughts on the dual ict setup? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


should i be scared of the FI??????? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)

i should also mention my car is pretty well stripped of the stock wiring. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)


thanks for your continued help with my car and i hope to be driving it soon!!!
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post Sep 27 2011, 08:31 PM
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If you want stock and simpler reliability..the stock FI cant be beat...even given the hassle of finding parts.
Many of us have these parts FS...so its not super hard to find what you need...

For carbs, I would ask where you live, and what type of fuel can you get?
With the ethanol blands I have heard that carbs are getting more finicky.

I have a few FI systems, both Ljet and Djet on my cars.
Both are stupid simple to fix and tune...its all hard coded so all you need to do is find the bad parts and replace them.
The car starts every spring, no drama....every morning....etc

With carbs...I think you need to love carbs to go that way...and many do.
Going with carbs, buy the kit and bolt them in place....all done.

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post Sep 27 2011, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE (r_towle @ Sep 27 2011, 08:31 PM) *
If you want stock and simpler reliability..the stock FI cant be beat...even given the hassle of finding parts.
Many of us have these parts FS...so its not super hard to find what you need...

For carbs, I would ask where you live, and what type of fuel can you get?
With the ethanol blands I have heard that carbs are getting more finicky.

I have a few FI systems, both Ljet and Djet on my cars.
Both are stupid simple to fix and tune...its all hard coded so all you need to do is find the bad parts and replace them.
The car starts every spring, no drama....every morning....etc

With carbs...I think you need to love carbs to go that way...and many do.
Going with carbs, buy the kit and bolt them in place....all done.

Rich

im located in scranton PA, im not sure what ethanol blend we have here.

for the 2.0 cars, is there an ecu i should look for in specific that may be the best one that wont drag my car down due to emissions tuning.
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post Sep 28 2011, 01:52 PM
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read this whole site twice at least.
http://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/DjetParts.htm
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post Sep 28 2011, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE (turbellion @ Sep 27 2011, 04:50 PM) *
keep in mind i wont be changing the cam.


Try tracking down the FI stuff...
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post Sep 28 2011, 02:11 PM
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i think im going to attempt the FI if I fail at it ill do the empi 40mm idfs and have a bunch of d-jet stuff for sale!
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post Sep 28 2011, 02:40 PM
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Bud,

Do the FI, you have the winter to figure it out.
You are very close to Ray Mital...and he can help you find parts, I can help, and there is always Hersey in April to get the last bits you need.

Go for the FI, it will run much better than carbs on a stock camshaft.

Rich
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post Sep 28 2011, 08:33 PM
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Most of what you need is on the engine.a good mps will be the biggest expense, and hardest to find, but they are available.harnesses are available used and new.
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post Sep 28 2011, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE (vsg914 @ Sep 28 2011, 08:33 PM) *
Most of what you need is on the engine.a good mps will be the biggest expense, and hardest to find, but they are available.harnesses are available used and new.


i actually just sold a rebuilt mps from a 72 i owned for about a month, never thought i would need it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)



i guess with the resources i have in my area i have no excuses not to do the FI.
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post Sep 28 2011, 11:50 PM
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Howdy, this has been an excellent informative article! I definitely appreciate all of your wisdom. Thanks alot .
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post Sep 28 2011, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE (lodream555 @ Sep 28 2011, 11:50 PM) *
Howdy, this has been an excellent informative article! I definitely appreciate all of your wisdom. Thanks alot .


i guess im not the only one that old fuel injection has put the fear a god into
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post Sep 28 2011, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE (turbellion @ Sep 28 2011, 11:55 PM) *
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Howdy, this has been an excellent informative article! I definitely appreciate all of your wisdom. Thanks alot .


i guess im not the only one that old fuel injection has put the fear a god into



actually now that i think of it thats a bot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif)
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post Sep 29 2011, 12:44 AM
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I just had a '73 2 liter 914 at the shop with serious chassis rust issues. Its a good, nearly operable car otherwise.
Complete stock FI on a running engine. The owner's registration and insurance are even up to date.
The calipers all need rebuilding, primarily due to lengthy inactivity.

The owner is ready to consider offers since he doesn't have the $10K to pay us for all the metal and mechanical repairs, not to mention the paint job afterward.
For now he's planning to park it in his barn and I was told to give his contact info to any interested parties.
I think it could be had for $1500 or less.

You would gain all of the missing pieces to put your car on the road, and have a spare engine/trans.
Plus, the chassis is repairable, and two of the most important pieces of sheet metal are included.
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post Sep 29 2011, 01:48 AM
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hmm i will consider that car, i currently have 1 914 but by the end of the week i will have 3 914's. Im kinda holding off buying anything until i sort out what comes with the two project cars im getting. hopefully i will end up having everything i need.
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post Sep 30 2011, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE (Racer Chris @ Sep 29 2011, 12:44 AM) *
I just had a '73 2 liter 914 at the shop with serious chassis rust issues. Its a good, nearly operable car otherwise.
Complete stock FI on a running engine. The owner's registration and insurance are even up to date.
The calipers all need rebuilding, primarily due to lengthy inactivity.

The owner is ready to consider offers since he doesn't have the $10K to pay us for all the metal and mechanical repairs, not to mention the paint job afterward.
For now he's planning to park it in his barn and I was told to give his contact info to any interested parties.
I think it could be had for $1500 or less.

You would gain all of the missing pieces to put your car on the road, and have a spare engine/trans.
Plus, the chassis is repairable, and two of the most important pieces of sheet metal are included.

Send me the contact details in a PM please...
Not that I need another one...but WTF.

rich
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post Oct 1 2011, 01:27 PM
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