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> Scirocco Style Radiator install....., Have you fitted one of these?
flyloki
post Oct 22 2004, 01:35 PM
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Thinking about using one of these for the planned 1.8t or TDI conversion. (IMG:http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/flx-365.jpg)
If I mounted the rocco rad as far forward as poss. and used the low profile flexalite elec fan how much exhaust space is needed? I would like to be able to still keep a spare and other items in the lower front. Is this feasible?
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post Oct 22 2004, 01:46 PM
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I thought most rad's put in 914's were of the double rowed variety? From most of the pics I have seen here, it looks like you cut a little bit of the fender wells out, seems to work well. I am on air head though. Hopefully some H2O guys will chime in for you. ;)
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post Oct 22 2004, 03:34 PM
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I'm using a scirocco style radiator from Griffin (sp?) with a dual fan and regular cutout in the wheel wells. I am also using a space save spare against the front bulkhead - plenty of room for it.
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post Oct 22 2004, 04:17 PM
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A general rule of thumb is to ensure the exhaust area is greater than the intake area of the fan(s). An equal or lesser area adds too much restriction. It can get complicated depending on the relative air pressures before the intake and after the exhaust. That is, you want the air intake to be in a higher pressure area than the exhaust.
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post Oct 22 2004, 05:09 PM
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Phoenix- Do you have any sort of cover or other "upper trunk floor" so that other objects can be carried in the front trunk?
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post Oct 22 2004, 05:15 PM
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do a search here for "renegade hybrids"...that rad. is just about the same size as the unit renegade sells....I'm pretty sure Fiid is using the same scirocco/corrado rad. in his Subaru install.

I was going to, but decided to get the renegade unit
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post Oct 22 2004, 05:29 PM
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has anyone looked at the jeep cherokee radiator? Its 11x31 and double pass are available. Looks like it will just fit lenghtwise and it real low profile, kinda like a oil cooler. Gt like shroud with bottom exit would save a good part of the trunk.....???????
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post Oct 23 2004, 04:37 PM
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post Oct 23 2004, 08:24 PM
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Flyloki,
I don't have anything else up front besides the spare, it will be sitting upright against the bulkhead.
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post Oct 23 2004, 08:26 PM
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Another shot
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post Oct 25 2004, 02:17 PM
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Phoenix-

So does it exhaust out the two holes in the floor?
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post Oct 25 2004, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE (flyloki @ Oct 25 2004, 11:17 AM)
So does it exhaust out the two holes in the floor?

no. the air goes out through the BF-Hole in the fenderwell where you can see the strut and brakes ...

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post Oct 25 2004, 03:00 PM
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Now - Now (IMG:http://www.914club.com/bbs2/style_emoticons/default/jester.gif) The holes on the bottom of the floor are where the hoses will run through.
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post Oct 25 2004, 04:14 PM
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[QUOTE]no. the air goes out through the BF-Hole in the fenderwell

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Yeah, I saw that after I posted .....Should have been hard to miss with the purple background!
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post Oct 25 2004, 04:24 PM
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nice setup (IMG:http://www.914club.com/bbs2/style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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post Oct 25 2004, 04:37 PM
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The holes in the floor are going down through to directly under the lowest part of the car. To make that sharp angle, you will have to install elbows in the lines, I dont suggest you do that and strongly suggest you consider another route. If you do it right, you can cut holes in below the gas tank exiting by the steering rack and the hose will not be in danger of hitting the ground when you hit a dip in the road. You will also not need an elbow where it can come apart. Nothing should exit the floor of your trunk. I will see if I can find some pictures and post them of where it should run.

I found one, see where these hoses are running? That is where they should run and there is plenty of room for them in that spot without bending them too sharply.
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post Oct 25 2004, 04:45 PM
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Here are two more showing the hoses NOT running through the floor. The second one is a car owned by Renegade.
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post Oct 25 2004, 04:47 PM
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Old picture of the Orange Renegade car. It is still the same, this picture was taken at the Pomona swap meet June 3rd 2001 before they moved to Vegas.
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post Oct 26 2004, 08:08 PM
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can i ask a few questions on that rad. ?

how thick is it including the fans ?
how big of a motor can it handle ?
what do the other sides measure ?

why i ask is i am slowly doing a suby 2.5 ( so slow i havent touched it in a year and a half ) and i was planing on putting the rad. in front of the motor. i have about 4 inches if the rad. is plumb or 6 six i tilt it. i was going to put a 28 by 3 inch scoop right under the firewall. and i have a ford probe rad. that fits well but i need fans and that unit looks too nice not to ask...

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post Oct 26 2004, 08:53 PM
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Rules of thumb ( for us V8 guys ) ...

Area of radiator ( sq in ) should be about 1.5 x the CID of the engine. 283 CID V-8, for example, would be 1.5 x 283 = 424.5 square inches. That could be, for example, a radiator measuring 16 x 26 ( 416 ).

Exhaust area should be 1.7 x frontal area. If frontal area was 6 x 24 ( 144 sq in ), then exhaust should be 144 x 1.7 = 244.8 sq in. Divided between 2 wheel wells, that's 244.8 / 2 = 122 sq in per wheel well which could be, for example, 6 x 20 or 8 x 15.

Good luck ...
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