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Pat Garvey
post May 24 2006, 09:04 AM
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Some discussion recently about the rocker panel/door sill rivets, indicated the white ones are NLA. I bought a large supply of these in the eraly 80's, because I remove the rockers every couple of years for cleaning & replace them because they seem to be good for one use only.

I have 4 left & need to do my removal/clean operation, so I obviously will have to change. I'm assuming that the factory replacement rivets are readily available, but color are they? Anyone get these recently? What's pricing like? Do they do a job equal to the orig's, or are they better (better, I hope)?
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post May 24 2006, 09:25 AM
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Pat,
The translucent/clear ones seem to be the ones still available. I had to use them on one of my sixes when I was restoring it some 7 years ago. I think I bought them from Stoddard at the time. I still see them listed with Performance Products so I'm sure they are out there. I was pleased with the design to match up with original whites or blacks. It's just a neutral color that you'll have to deal with by dying or painting them. I have done neither on my six. Visually they look white at 1st glance, but they are not the original white.
I do not fully remove my rockers for that reason. I just remove the lower screws and pull back the panel without disturbing the rivets. If it's dry underneath, then you can use an air compressor to blow it out.

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post May 29 2006, 04:13 PM
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So the OE fasteners for the TOP of the rockers were those push pin plastic rivits in
White or black? How about a Pic?
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post Jun 11 2006, 09:42 AM
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I asked the owner of this car here if he wouldnt mind checking when he had the opportunity. http://www.sloancars.com/vs1/detail.asp?CarID=80

He said next time he goes to his warehouse he'll take a look for us.
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post Jun 11 2006, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE (tod914 @ Jun 11 2006, 09:42 AM) *
I asked the owner of this car here if he wouldnt mind checking when he had the opportunity. http://www.sloancars.com/vs1/detail.asp?CarID=80

He said next time he goes to his warehouse he'll take a look for us.

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Too bad about the chrome strips down the sides! Hope those are glued on, rather fitted with clips. Ruins a perfect car.
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post Jun 11 2006, 01:59 PM
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Hi Pat,

I am 99% sure those chrome side strips are glued on. They were on my 74 when I bought mine (dealer installed). They peeled off & just had to remove the sticky stuff with solvent. I still have them & available "free" to anyone who puts them on his 914 (IMG:http://www.914club.com/bbs2/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .

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post Jun 11 2006, 02:10 PM
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BTW guys,

Here's a picture of black rivets for the rockers. I posted once before & here's another pic. They are a bugger to install because when you push the pin they have a tendency to bend. I believe the factory probably had a special tool to install. Don't know how many I damaged when installing mine with damaged ones thrown in the garbage can. I should have kept them. I believe I paid $1.25 each about (8) years ago. Now NLA. I have a few left if someone wants to use as samples to find replacements???? Pat???? or ????

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Jeff Bowlsby
post Jun 11 2006, 02:13 PM
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I heard that these were available at NAPA auto parts. The black ones.
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post Jun 11 2006, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE (Thomas J Bliznik @ Jun 11 2006, 02:10 PM) *
BTW guys,

Here's a picture of black rivets for the rockers. I posted once before & here's another pic. They are a bugger to install because when you push the pin they have a tendency to bend. I believe the factory probably had a special tool to install. Don't know how many I damaged when installing mine with damaged ones thrown in the garbage can. I should have kept them. I believe I paid $1.25 each about (8) years ago. Now NLA. I have a few left if someone wants to use as samples to find replacements???? Pat???? or ????

Tom

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Tom,
I'd love to have one for a sample. Hope to find at least the transluscent ones, but will go with black if I need to. What do you suppose it would take for someone to repro these things?
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post Jun 11 2006, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE (Jeff Bowlsby @ Jun 11 2006, 02:13 PM) *
I heard that these were available at NAPA auto parts. The black ones.

I'll try to see if NAPA has them. By the way, I've always used a small drift pin to install mine & had no real problems - just slow & steady.
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post Jun 11 2006, 02:24 PM
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Jeff & Pat

I'll send both you guys a sample (East Coast & West Coast).

I have Jeff's address but need Pat's.

Pat, send me your address to my personal email tjbliznik@ameritech.net

Tom
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post Jun 11 2006, 02:32 PM
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Tom here's an earier thread on that car... Im under the impression they are riveted on. http://www.914club.com/bbs2/index.php?show...16987&hl=berber
probally a few more threads on it, that was the 1st one I came upon.

Regarding the black rivets at NAPA, I tried 2 years ago and was a no go. Maybe you'll have better luck.
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post Jun 11 2006, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE (Pat Garvey @ Jun 11 2006, 06:31 AM) *
QUOTE (tod914 @ Jun 11 2006, 09:42 AM) *

I asked the owner of this car here if he wouldnt mind checking when he had the opportunity. http://www.sloancars.com/vs1/detail.asp?CarID=80

He said next time he goes to his warehouse he'll take a look for us.

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Too bad about the chrome strips down the sides! Hope those are glued on, rather fitted with clips. Ruins a perfect car.


Pat,
The ones on my 75 were not glued but, pop rivet. When removed we spot welded the holes up and the job turn out like they were never there! I do have pics before and after if someone would like to see.
Gary
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post Jun 11 2006, 02:43 PM
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Just alittle spot paint in the area then Gary?
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post Jun 11 2006, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE (tod914 @ Jun 11 2006, 10:43 AM) *
Just alittle spot paint in the area then Gary?


Nope, a hole repaint but there is more to the story and we can save that for another day when we want to talk fire and 914s!
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post Jun 12 2006, 01:24 PM
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I'll check with some plastic manufacturers and see if any of them have a match or can reproduce it. Maybe just the black being the clear are close enough to the white??
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post Jun 12 2006, 03:48 PM
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I had a discussion about the rivets on my 76 at the Danbury CT Zone One event last month. Sorry, I don't remember who I was talking too, but he noticed I had standard aluminum "pop" rivets. He asked me whether I had changed them and I told him it's been like that since I bought the car new. Is there anyone else out there with a 76 with the same thing?

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post Jun 12 2006, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE (dcheek @ Jun 12 2006, 11:48 AM) *
I had a discussion about the rivets on my 76 at the Danbury CT Zone One event last month. Sorry, I don't remember who I was talking too, but he noticed I had standard aluminum "pop" rivets. He asked me whether I had changed them and I told him it's been like that since I bought the car new. Is there anyone else out there with a 76 with the same thing?

Dave


How soon we forget.

What spurred my question was that the threshold piece has secured with the black plastic push pin, and the rocker with the aluminum rivet. I would have expected both to be the same.
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post Jun 12 2006, 05:44 PM
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Odd that Porsche would use white on a black rockers while using black on threshold plates. Thats way mine was anyway. early 75. Be interesting to note with production dates when some of these changes took place.. rivets, coil being moved to fan shroud, ECU moved to firewall etc.
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post Jun 12 2006, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE (tod914 @ Jun 11 2006, 02:32 PM) *
Tom here's an earier thread on that car... Im under the impression they are riveted on. http://www.914club.com/bbs2/index.php?show...16987&hl=berber
probally a few more threads on it, that was the 1st one I came upon.

Regarding the black rivets at NAPA, I tried 2 years ago and was a no go. Maybe you'll have better luck.

Tried 2 NAPA stores today. Both pimple-faced guys had NO idea what I was talking about. Asked to talk to the manager, who was all of 20 - he didn't even know what a 914 is! I run into these problems all the time - is it just because I live outside Philly & these guys only know zoomy Hondas? Or is it because the 914 to them is like a '40 Ford was to me when I got my 914? Either way, write NAPA off on the east coast.
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